Should you buy a big or small avocado tree? In fact, it is precisely the microbes in there doing their work that produce the enzyme called cellulase which is said to fight the pathogenic fungus that causes root rot disease in avocados (Phytophthora cinnamomi). You might be able to find a Gwen to taste at a farmers market somewhere nearby around now and through summer. I concluded that it was worth growing. I have bought a number of trees there. Ill suggest other varieties and give lots of reasons and scenarios in the upcoming post. I have read about predator mites to purchase but not sure how to apply them. You might have to wait a bit before one is available. Your input and knowledge definitely helps. I went to Fallbrook and paid Eli a visit, and I came back with a Reed, a Sirprize, and a GEM. Four different varieties which were doing very well. Avocado strains include Nishikawa, Sharwil, and Lamb Hass. In case you didnt know, Im also in Ramona. Thin skin but good flavor. GEM. USDA Certified Production Facility: Volume up to 6,000 lbs. Sharwil avocados are the only Hawaiian avocado authorized for shipment to the mainland of the United States. Im familiar with Stassens style of pruning and training young avocado trees to a central leader. Forgive my rambling. The correct spelling is "Hass." The word "Hass" rhymes with "class," and is often mistaken to rhyme with "Hoss" or "Hozz." Why is it "Hass Avocado?" Because the Hass Avocado is named after Rudolph Hass, a California postman who patented the Hass Avocado in 1935. Its crazy that these bigger nurseries carry many more inferior varieties, such as Zutano, while less frequently have Reed. Seeing as you can go buy a Hass avocado in your local supermarket any day of the year, maybe you might consider a different variety that you can't otherwise find. I love old trees like that. I am jealous you are growing all those Hawaiian varieties and am interested in what you have to say about taste once that time comes and how the trees are doing. Read more here: http://www.avocadosource.com/CAS_Yearbooks/CAS_72_1988/CAS_1988_PG_195-207.pdf. But thats actually not why Id choose it to grow as my only tree. Im very close to cutting mine down. I see the UC grafting resource you posted, but I am curious how to select varieties that would be well suited for grafting to the same tree. One, how well does your Fuerte produce? Youll just want to be prepared to protect them in cold snaps during their first winter or two. I would love to grow one or graft a branch onto a tree I have after researching about how great the fruit tastes. Persea americana x 'Mexicola Grande'. The funny thing is that when I have given people some wood I didnt give them fruit because it is identical to Fuerte so there is no need. I found one at a small nursery in south county and planted it in between the 2 existing trees. Hi Elizabeth, Lambs do get rich, for sure. What I would plant after these is less solid though. Who knows? The fruit has the same thick, pebbly skin as the Hass but has a little rounder shape. https://gregalder.com/yardposts/avocado-trees-get-sunburned-what-to-do/ https://ucanr.edu/sites/alternativefruits/files/121265.pdf I enjoy hearing your feedback on Holiday. Thanks for the articles; Im finding them to be a wonderful resource. My 15-foot Hass averages roughly 100 avocados per year, and Ive found that we need more than that during the Hass season. Thanks! This is how your year in avocados could look. . Sorry that I bad-mouthed Zutano in the comment above. Will likely be going with a Sir Prize based on that fact, but Eli at Subtropica has all available, its just so tempting to get all three and just try to plant the reed on the other side of the property. I would call them and see about buying trees from them if you have trouble locating trees elsewhere. Hi Thomas, Is there something I can do to prevent the drop, or is it just survival of the fittest? One of the challenging things is actually figuring out the season for each time and what that season is for those varieties in the location it is planted. Please keep it up. These trees had a bit more shade and sprinklers watering. The only tough part is that you must whitewash exposed bark. The Nabal is really dropping a lot of yellowing leaves daily and making me nervous about over or under watering or something else I might be causing. I dont have extensive room for so many trees through which is why I want to graft (actually its that my wife will kill me if I try to plant more than 3 avocado trees). Hi Robert, Yes, you can definitely graft several varieties onto one tree. Ill write it within the next couple weeks and title it something like Avocado varieties for year-round fruit.. Ill do it again this summer to figure out where not to plant less heat tolerant plants. Distinguishing characteristics of the Sharwil avocado include its size, shape, and color. So if youre toward that side of Temecula, you might get Sharwils to hang on the tree a long time compared to the eastern side of Temecula. I have downscaled a bit.and now I have just 20 trees and 16 varieties. A handsome tree to about 9m x 10m, Hass is fairly cold and frost tolerant once established, and will bear its delicious fruit between September and January. I like that place, he even recommended going down to Maddocks a bit further if he didnt have what I wanted. So you dont want to prevent the drop of fruitlets if the set is heavy. (I prefer this to their compost, which is a bit overcooked and too fine for my liking. It makes me more confident that I can keep an avocado alive and healthy enough to bear fruit someday. And one concern would be pairing a vigorous upright variety with a slow spreading variety. I read about GEM, and it sounds like it would fit easily in our space and produce great fruit. What are your thoughts on a Sharwil Tree? I cant speak from personal experience about my own Sharwil trees because theyre too young, so this guess is based on what Ive seen in others Sharwil trees in Southern California. Even when it was 118 back in July 2018 I lost no Pinkerton fruit, and Ive seen a Pinkerton tree in Redlands that carried a massive crop through that same heat wave. https://ibb.co/4jnDhXv There are lots of other very good avocado varieties. We can all hope, cant we? 2 Reed (on Dusa) for me and the cathedral, and one Bacon (on Dusa) for the cathedral. Until then, let me say that every one of the varieties you mentioned has great tasting fruit (except that Ive never eaten Green Gold so cant comment with experience on that one). I grew up in the San Gabriel Valley. Florida's avocado trees grow to be between 30 and 65 feet tall. But yes, Lamb, Reed, and Fuerte all have higher salt tolerance than Hass. What do you think, is it overkill to have two Hass trees? Bonny Doon Avocado. Avocado oils are high in monounsaturated fats, which are beneficial for your heart and skin. When you talk to them they are totally clueless. Ive seen high-density plantings get crowded after the first few years and then the yield is reduced and the grove is impenetrable jungle. Also, this winter had me buying avocado from Mexico, which is either small and cheaper, or XL and pricey. So from Armstrong and Evergreen and Walter Andersen, etc. Tamp the soil down around the tree's . I sure am no botanist)))). Is there a simpler way. Also, avocado flowers are primarily pollinated by bees, and bees readily fly between trees that are 50 feet apart. 1 year old Bacon on Zutano seedling Was looking at Sir Prize, your article leans toward Haas, stay with Haas? Being in Montecito, its likely that your Hass will set very well without a pollenizer. If they dont get a good start to life, they usually struggle forever. I am familiar with Fuertes history and that it grows wide making dense planting difficult and that some years the production is very low. But I have no idea if tomato Phytophthora is related to Phytophthora that affects avocado trees. ))) I would stick to A types though. But first let me say thank you. If your Reed is on Dusa and its doing well so far, then I would get those other trees on Dusa too. I have been growing avos for 40 years. Shot hole borers being involved didnt even occur to me, but now that you mention it that seems like a definite possibility. The state dealt in the Sharwil variety of avocado, which some say is superior in taste and texture and yields more flesh. The main negative is that, to me, Pinkertons dont taste quite as good as Fuertes. Its me from up North again. But this is just theory, and I lack experience in so many other aspects of gardening. Truth is, youll probably be happy with either a Reed or a Sharwil in every way. I dont think it is possible to attach files to the commentaries ongregalder.com, so I will send you pictures by email. My second choice would be Hass and Fuerte. Anything you can pass my way will be appreciated. I love your articles!! I could do that! I dont know anything about salt in soil, never heard of it on the French Riviera. I do know MacArthur avocados. I already have lamb, fuerte, Mexicola, Pinkerton, Reed, wurtz, Sir prize. Do you suggest shade clothes for all my trees (about 4 feet tall, 15 gal), or will it stunt growth too much? If the tree turns out to be a winner in your yard too, then eventually we can all benefit from the discovery. It is an effective way to manage closely planted trees. I decided on buying a clonal rootstock. while studying all this, it really feels like I am from another planet)))))): temperatures are in Fahrenheit, not in Celsius, you have feet, not meters. This way I still have the varieties (and I hope I get as much fruit as possible from them) but Im not wasting space and water on a lot of unproductive foliage. Thanks for writing. Your message is very fun for me to read. For each golf ball-sized portion (two tablespoons, or two to three thin slices), a California avocado such as Hass contains 4.6 grams of fat and the same portion of a Florida avocado averages 3 grams of fat. Youre right Walter. At my place Gwen seems to be doing fine in the heat but it is getting some afternoon shade from a large live oak. It is so hard to know when a variety will taste good coming from a tree in your yard based on the information of others, I totally agree. I live in So Calif Inland Empire (Norco); hot summers, rarely below 29 30 in winter. Thank again for your help. Im glad you have shared how things are doing at your place so others nearby are clued in. What an adventure youve gotten yourself into. But not about the persea mites. I think Ill pick a few avocados that you mentioned (knowing me Ill get to the store and come back with seven) Call me crazy but I just ordered 10 thermometers that record the max/min temp on my property. Thank you. I hope you get a chance to plant a real avocado tree or three this spring. I am curious to hear your thoughts on these varieties or think something else would be better suited. Two main varieties on offer. When it comes to Avocado, Temecula is the place to buy all your Avocado trees, famous for best Avocados in the WORLD. That day gave me a chance to compare the heat tolerance of multiple varieties: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/heat-tolerance-of-avocado-varieties/. The big difference: these avocados have significantly less fat. Fertilize every few months with a well-balanced citrus and avocado plant food. Do you think I should remove the one tree which has a few new green shoots? Most of the other retail nurseries buy from the same wholesale growers (La Verne and Durling). The last tree has very little green although it does look like new green. In 1992, the USDA banned shipment of the Sharwil avocados after an oriental fruit fly larva was found in a Hawaiian packinghouse that processed Sharwil avocados and other local produce. come up with some heat resistant varieties. Thank you!! Your climate in Temecula is similar to mine in Ramona: a bit hot in summer; a bit cold in winter . I am thinking Dusa for Hass (everyone says that Hass avocado grafted on Dusa is more productive than on Duke 7) But I have no idea about Reed, because no scientific study mentions Reed (I guess this is because it is not a commercial variety anymore). Hass, A Florida avocado has the same kind of fats but in much lower quantities. Sometimes the selection and quality is terrible, but sometimes its excellent. As I mentioned in a different post I have a Fuerte and a Hass here in temecula, Ive been thinking of putting in a third to open the possibility of year round avocados. I have a 60% shade cloth for my Fuerte. Any new varieties being developed by Mary Lu Arpaias breeding program at UC Riverside take decades before theyre released to be propagated and sold to the public. So sorry to hear about your trees. Trees will be on south facing slope w full sun. Thanks for the feedback on Holiday. If there is excess moisture, your Hass avocado tree might suffer from root rot. Im in Van Nuys, which is Sunset Zone 18. Ive been told that landfills in other counties offer similar products. But the intention is to have overlapping seasons for both A and B type so there is always cross pollination available (I know that doesnt guarantee it will work, but I like the idea of having that potential). My twist is I want to keep them to 10 12 ft high. The Pinkerton tree itself gets a bit sunburned and tattered looking but it holds onto its fruit very well, which Id say is what we most care about. Thank you for your article. Thank you. But sometimes I dont get lucky with that method, in which case I go to the Miramar Landfill in San Diego where they process such wood chips along with other yardwaste by composting it for a couple weeks and screening it. i was thinking that maybe a gwen to help the sir prize and reed for stewart seems to be the right pairing, or should i think about redoing my variety selection? Its a challenge to choose a single avocado variety to plant. Yes, I like Nabal. Hi Greg, They must look at my yard and think its disgusting! My goal is to help others grow food at home, with a focus on vegetables and fruits -- especially avocados -- in Southern California. I would still choose Hass as my single tree in Van Nuys, and Reed should do well there too. And the sharwil does not have the nutty notes like the hass. The Sharwil avocados have a 15-26 percent oil content and are very popular in Hawaii. The foliage just doesnt look very pretty close up. I think this one can make a come back. If we are successful. Let me get things together on my side before I share too much about the Lamorinda tree. Theres likely to be at least a little variation in your yard. Its good no doubt, but being the guy at Clausen told me it is the _best_ avocado, I was a bit surprised that it didnt have the high oil content like a Hass, it reminded me much more of a Fuerte, milder and more water based than oil based. It is probably the climate but since I have been surprised by other varieties nothing like finding out for . I hesitate to even talk about the taste of Kahaluu since Ive only eaten one. But I will say that it is definitely precocious in my yard. SOLD OUT FOR 2022. Hi David, Small fruit will be used for value added product. 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