r288 that's chilling. Yeah, on Reddit you see a lot of initials with explanation. I have no idea what we are thinking. Q. Pretty sure anybody crossing that bridge wouldn't exactly be race-walking across it. I cannot see someone closely involved in the investigation or to law enforcement revealing info that could in any way jeopardize the case. The original sketch could be a young but unfit/chubby man and to me there is a definite resemblance. If you look at the link, they have some of his social media photos and you'll see what I mean. Their bodies were found nearby a day later. Law enforcement's relative radio silence over the probe has permitted a swell of speculation to mount online - something Holeman acknowledged. The sound editing was much better. They all looked like his girlfriend who dumped him. The police did say they had a good idea of who had committed the crime and were waiting for him to slip up as it was just a matter of time. That next morning would bring a discovery that none of them were prepared for. I wish someone with money or connections would help these families hire a private investigator or lawyer to access additional details on the case. I wonder if the killer was law enforcement? If someone murdered my kid, I would be desperate too. R480 DNA would easily tell who the father of that baby was. R462 That was the fat pedo's reset of his phone. The audio of a mans voice saying down the hill was seconds long and was released free of video. It just doesnt sound right. Delphi was 76 years old at the time of death. People latch onto any clue (even ones that fall apart if you give it a second thought) and hound the police with them, even ones that have been already addressed (HE HAS TO BE OLD! It was one of precious few updates on the Delphi murders since the initial investigation. The day the girls went missing, there were dozens of people looking for them. Recording the recording, that it is brief and that it recorded the murders. He knew what he was going to say before he said it.. The Websleuther who dug up the scanner traffic wrote: State Police out of Lafayette have an 8-county coverage area - including in and around Monticello. Years ago I went down the Beeks rabbit hole and crawled out concluding the Beeks have nothing to do with this. I stopped following this case. I couldnt help but be drawn but the sheriffs face/expressions and it did occur to me that he resembled the Bridge Guy. I live in Indiana and LE mentioned at one time the girls were controlled by the mans dogs and the bodies had bite marks. Email us at exclusive@the-sun.com or call 212 416 4552. I see the outline of a gun. I cannot find any source of Robert Ives, former Carroll Co prosecutor, stating anything about non-secular signatures. A rare development in the case was shared by cops earlier this week when they announced they were hunting for the creator of a bogus social media profile that was grooming underage girls and attempting to meet with them. site without all this bureaucratic nonsense, in 1984. They have created a new team to look at this case off-site. Brrrr. I think that they cracked the Atlanta Child Murders case. Such a mystery, this crime. If Leigh Kerr is legit then I think the PB suspect people mention in the AMA thread is the guy. It's a dangerous bridge with rotting slats of wood that you have to look at and be careful stepping on. If you consider the chief suspect is in prison, I can see them wanting to build their case. No one - especially not someone who the government believes may be in any way involved - should be questioned without legal representation. Though, playing devil's advocate, there could have been other reasons he wanted to pretend he lived in Las Vegas, given he had been arrested for other crimes. There's also differing tales on the recording. I had not even thought about the fact the guy could have gained weight! That Robert Lindsay guy requested me on Facebook just after the murders because I commented in a group about the girls. Lawrence says he has begun asking questions about his sisters murder and the case against Garnett in order to learn the truth about what happened after so many years of being kept in the dark about the matter. It was the last time the girls were seen alive, and the recordings German collected on her phone including a chilling recording of the mans voice remains almost the only evidence ever released to the public in whats become known as the Delphi murders. I always roll my eyes at the 'owed money to drug dealers' theory. I thought they had a suspect. He looks like every average white guy between 25-50 who lives in the Midwest. This perp needs to be caught and fried. As per the report, Delphi Lawrence lives in. Knives, guns, ect. Days after Libby and Abby were found dead, police officially named that man a person of interest in their murders. Does anyone else remember this?? When DN was temporarily a suspect he'd gone after someone with a hatchet or ax right? Stop. He said he offered to take her home and try to help, but that his stepfather overruled him. R68- Yes. But the news reports did not reach the victims younger brother, Dwayne Lawrence. On sub-Reddit DelphiIsTheDays Timeline there is a post asserting fellow student Cheyenne said on FB she heard screaming and called 911. Who knows if that is true. R81 might hold the clue. I wonder if investigators could have worked out approximate height from the video, since that would have been a good tip to look out for. James Brian Chadwell has a tie to Peru, IN where fat pedo lives. She sent the photo to LE. A witness came forward and described a car parked in a small lot near one of the trail exits for a few hours on the day of the murder. But why not arrest him, is the DNA chain of custody compromised? Stranger to the two victims. Im watching now and r138 is right. He is currently serving a life sentence without parole. Who knows. Why was there no mention of two girls screaming loudly while being stabbed to death? It wasn't too long ago and I wonder if that corresponds with the timing of this revelation, This will not be the guy- he is too fat- the guy in the video is far thinner than his baggy clothes make him look (And clearly has weaponry in his shirt), I agree R145, but apparently there are pics of him from 2017 where he's thinner (haven't seen them yet). I don't get it. I read the 2 Reddit forums about the Delphi Murders. View our online Press Pack. The audio was part of a video file taken from Liberty's cell phone shortly before her death. Abby Williams and Libby German, the victims of the Delphi murders. The cops are probably not going to feed her all their information just in case. Within the last week Ive looked at new Reddit subs, historic Reddit/Websleuths places, and then gone down old rabbit holes and new ones. R42 Feb 15 is a Monday, not Saturday, apologies (again). I cant imagine being a parent and not knowing when your child is or what your childs last moments were like. The last press conference bordered on ridiculous. The bodies of Abby Williams, 13, and her best friend Libby German, 14, were discovered near a river a short distance away from the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, on February 14, 2017. You can find youtubes of the bridge and it makes you understand what it was really like. It was news. Per Leigh Kerr, the signatures included hair missing from both girls and their bodies posed in a relgious but also sexual way. The FBI hadn't been involved there either. Garnett, he said, was the son of Lawrences uncle, but was living with his mother, Betty Garnett, and a stepfather, Sam Whitaker Jr., on South Adams Street in the borough. Did one or more than one set of footprints lead searchers to the area where the girls were found? It has been well established that BG is the killer. The bridge is scary, and no way as an adult i would walk across it, but at 13 and 14 years old, i would have. Marissa Bluestine, the Innocence Projects legal director, said she had not heard of Garnetts case until contacted about it by a reporter. They have loud piano music drowning out the grandmother right now. Not uncommon at all. But it's his "type," the type he kills. (The son is currently in prison for watching and downloading children being sexually abused -- sorry I can't use the word "porn" with regard to children). It was a popular local spot for photographers and nature-watchers and the girls saw that they werent alone. My impression just from the photo and his recording is that hes middle aged, has a fairly decent job, knew what he was doing and was comfortable, has pretty good taste in clothes, not a slob, people wouldnt suspect him, has a boat. I think he planned to but they ran and he killed them in anger. You will lose all power. That is an extremely rare height, isn't it? If the killer(s) were local, it would only take about 3 minutes to get to the bridge. "We've likely interviewed you or someone close to you.". I dont believe the abortion by murder story. At least the FBI is investigating. Very interesting. R185 I agree. I use WIKI 2 every day and almost forgot how the original Wikipedia looks like. Why didn't the killer didn't take the phone? We don't know if they were posed. I worked with a barrister once who had had to view CP images. Jesus. Just that I assume he was some sort of transient. Absolutely not. The Levi styled cut of his jeans and the Members Only aesthetic of the jacket suggest someone stuck in the styles of their youth. The teens took a walk down some historic, wooded trails on the east side of town, and ended up stepping onto the old Monon High railroad bridge. Those are the vibes some of his pictures gave me. You can bet money on one thing. But often decades go by until the perp is caught, do more to luck and happenstance than investigation. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an Stayed tune. James Chadwell should have been killed by the cops whrn they found the naked, sexually abused and beaten till almost dead, 9 year old girl locked in his basement. I believe it was from a first responder. The bridge kid looks like this could be his dad. In the 1970s-1980s, there was a serial killer in Connecticut, never caught. This page was last edited on 29 January 2023, at 23:38, "TheConstantWifeIBDB:TheofficialsourceforBroadwayInformation". In the video he looks to me like he's walking with a limp. The man in the video doesn't need to be from the area. The second sketch is extremely amateurish compared to the first, but essentially, the guy has a bulbous nose and thin lips. that's hard to believe r295 as they were said to be posed. There is part of the video of one of the girls reactions that haunts one of the investigators. I think the police probably have an idea of who it was and have much more evidence then we are aware of. Around that time I thought for sure it had to be because BG had used the same thing. Thanks R77. Just two years older than Delphi, she considered him her protector in dealing with the kids in West Chester, Lawrence said. When Abby and Libby did not come back for pickup at 5:30 p.m., their parents reported them missing. We do that so when we get key evidence, only the killer or killers know the cause of death. R314-- Yes, that was disgusting but not one bit surprising. There are rumors that they did collect touch DNA at the site but no one knows for sure. Years ago I saw this brutal movie called Short Eyes, about what happens in jail to a guy who raped and killed a young girl. Carroll County Sheriffs OfficeCarroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. His eyes are chilling. This case haunts me. Those reddit links are all over the place. "We have not caught the person yet. Nothing good ever came from the Knoxville Tn. They stayed for most of the testimony, but left when medical examiner Halbert Fillinger testified about the case of death. No matter the truth of why she did, he felt she didn't think he was good enough for her. I think its more likely someone who knows the area (truck driver? "The information has obviously been sharedwith us, and our investigators are looking into him," Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said of Chadwell's case. He is a serial killer. In this case, we gave out audio and photo evidence from [Germans] video to help locate [the perpetrator]. Oh thank you R226, R227! Never mind. Say, "Drag me". The first is a grainy image of a man walking towards the girls along one of the trails. I hope this is the guy so there can be closure. That first composite sketch was created after police said they received information from witnesses who were in the area at the time Libby and Abby went missing. Defields Lawrence was called to the stand to identify some clothes that had been found at the scene as belonging to his daughter. If they did they wouldn't be in business long. When LE speaks of a religious aspect to the poses, I think it could be that Libby was posed to look like she had been crucified with blood coming from her hands and the from the wound that the stake made in her abdomen. R89- How long until the girls were found? However, I do not think she is trustworthy. What's the update? A poster upstream mentioned one of the girls' parent might have been in drug or gambling debt. Per CNN, Delphi police announced that they It is only when we mature into mid to late teens that the concept of making our own decisions develop. The Monon Trail also passes by the former (now abandoned) estate of Herb Baumeister, who buried some 30+ of his victims on the property. . If they'd released more info to begin with, the guy might be in prison by now. She made her first film in 1952, and, over the next decade, she established a following in British films. Right jacket pocket. You could also do it yourself at any point in time. Unless there was something incredibly bizarre about the crime scene, how do you determine something is a signature unless you're comparing it to another crime scene where the same things were seen? People age so differently. I really want this guy to pay. I will be very surprised if he isn't the Delphi killer Very. But not to the area. R23 Im not sure the video could include the murdersunless you mean just the audio? Multiple pieces of evidence, including anything technologically based, have been gained. The boyfriend and his brother were known for importing drugs through their small town, very well connected to the drug suppliers, the girlfriend found out and was killed. Like they had a name, someone to watch? This is an app that is going to help so many people and change the perspective of crime, and hopefully solve cases and get arrests for many unsolved cases.. What saddens me is that when (if) LE does arrest somebody, they'll crow to the skies in a self-congratulatory haze. These pictures from the Delphi murders featured the bridge and the surrounding countryside. Rudely quoting myself here because I forgot to add that it doesn't really fit with what we've heard about one of the girls being the subject of his interest while the other seemed to have just been eliminated. How do you think he killed them? She was a veteran of the Royal Variety Performance and was commissioned for a They were also on the recording talking about him and not as though he knew him. Despite the woke, theyve always been notoriously anti-gay, yes? Or would a VPN work to hide it? That's it. Kind of odd that hed include the detail that he didnt know who would have called in a tip about him. She saw the video and confirms a bit. You have to wonder if amateur cyber sleuths are more of a hindrance than a help. Hes a little bit too skinny to look like bridge guy but I can kind of see it. Someday they will hopefully catch this piece of scum and we will learn the details. Her mother, Gladys Kent, was a classical dancer and was responsible for forming the children's dance troupe, the Kent Babes, Her father George was a musician and she grew up in Hayling Island, Hampshire, Educated at Lawrence, speaking to the Daily Local News recently about the case involving his sister and Garnett, said that Delphi had become literally a ghost, for him remembered, but only as a spectral presence. The story in the video (Libertys father fingered two meth dealers and this was retribution) makes more sense.and would account for the positioning of the bodies (sexual/religious) as a huge fuck you to the father and the community as a whole. Electrocute his sick, sadistic, sorry ass. I wish theyd nail this guy. R45 I think they crossed at a shallow point? I hope they arrest him, such senseless loss of life. R207 Thats my thought. Indiana State Police previously said that autopsies were carried out on An example would be Ted Bundy. Delphi Lawrence's net worth In the text, the man said that Abby was clothed and sitting up against a tree. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who The disgraced Judge is now representing one of the Delphi meth heads whose gang could have killed the Delphi girls. This case has really resonated with sleuth-wannabe fraus. Few updates have also been shared by police in the more than four years since. He was caught while abducting and trying to kill a young girl (same MO). Kids are also social media minded and the bridge and the view made for good photos. This is not the situation with the Abby & Libby investigation. Very interesting. Why are people so literal-minded? I think the most simple answer is it wouldn't help the public identify the perpetrator, LE wouldn't gain anything with it, but it could hurt the case. 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